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steve

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:48 am
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I recently played in and won a 10-player, single table Sit n Go at a local
riverboat casino. It was a $90 buy-in. The payouts were $500 and $250. I
received a slip to go to the cashiers cage to receive the money which is on the
other side of the casino., making it impossible to tip at the table. The dealers
rotated throughout the tournament which lasted about 1.5 hours. The dealers pool
their tips in this casino and spend the majority of their time on the limit
games and spend 20 minutes at the tourney per rotation. We had at least 4
different dealers. This casino has only limit games below 5-10 & up and the
players generally tip 1-2 per hand on the 5-10. 

What is the appropriate ammount to tip in this situation? I struggled with the
decission because so much was taken from the prize pool. ($150). I would love to
hear from a dealer on their thoughts.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:48 am
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steve wrote:
> I recently played in and won a 10-player, single table Sit n Go at a local
> riverboat casino. It was a $90 buy-in. The payouts were $500 and $250. I
> received a slip to go to the cashiers cage to receive the money which is on the
> other side of the casino., making it impossible to tip at the table. The dealers
> rotated throughout the tournament which lasted about 1.5 hours. The dealers pool
> their tips in this casino and spend the majority of their time on the limit
> games and spend 20 minutes at the tourney per rotation. We had at least 4
> different dealers. This casino has only limit games below 5-10 & up and the
> players generally tip 1-2 per hand on the 5-10.
>


> What is the appropriate ammount to tip in this situation?

This is a rare situation. With the amount taken out, you'd be about
average if you didn't tip anything, as the dealers are rotated. Or, you
could take a $20 over to give the dealers. Problem here, it may not
reach them.


I struggled with the
> decission because so much was taken from the prize pool. ($150). I would love to
> hear from a dealer on their thoughts.

You want a biased or unbiased view? I gave you the unbiased view.

Russ Georgiev

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:27 am
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Thanks Russ. As it turned out the valet was right next to the cash window. I had
already requested the car when I thought about it. I did not go back because one
of the dealers was extremely nasty and another had trouble keeping up with the
game. I have overtipped the two good dealers in the past, so I felt little
guilt. Plus I felt the $150 take out was excessive.

What was your biased view? 



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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:29 pm
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"steve"
>
> Thanks Russ. As it turned out the valet was right next to the cash window.
> I had
> already requested the car when I thought about it. I did not go back
> because one
> of the dealers was extremely nasty and another had trouble keeping up with
> the
> game. I have overtipped the two good dealers in the past, so I felt little
> guilt. Plus I felt the $150 take out was excessive.

If you paid $90 to get into the tournament and it paid $750 to the players,
the $150 did NOT go to the dealers, it went to the house. (That is a lot of
juice.) You just need to ask the dealers what the "deal" is. If dealers in
the room share tips in cash games (they do at Foxwoods) they often do not
provide the "service" that seems to generate tips. If they keep their own
tips in the cash games, then you control whether you tip or do not. In
tournaments, there are many ways of compensation for the dealers. Often
there is a "dealer's special" where you get some extra chips for an extra
amount. Sometimes a specific amount is withheld for the dealers.
Sometimes, nothing is withheld and any tip comes from the players. Some
places have dealers for tournaments and other dealers for cash games. It
just varies with the place. You can find out the tipping custom and
practice with little effort. Many players need very little excuse not to
tip at all. If I am at the final table in a MTT and a deal is proposed, I
always make sure that the dealers get at least 5% of the total amount of the
prize pool. (It can come from a percentage house cut that is already
provided for the dealers, the dealer's special if there is one and from the
"winners." Some people like to make that close to or up to ten percent. I
find that appropriate too. Most tournament dealers share tips on a "per
down" basis. The total tip pool is divided among the dealers who dealt the
tournament by downs.) Your nasty dealers will share, but that is the nature
of the beast. A one table sit and go is not the favorite game for dealers.
Just ask around the next time you are there. You can find out, if you want
to.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:42 pm
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$500.00 would be acceptable.  Very Happy

$15 to $30 would be nice (pro-rate it to  equivalent  of  $15  to  $30  per
hour)  and  adjust  according to  quality  of  service.

On Aug 31 2006 11:48 PM, steve wrote:

> I recently played in and won a 10-player, single table Sit n Go at a local
> riverboat casino. It was a $90 buy-in. The payouts were $500 and $250. I
> received a slip to go to the cashiers cage to receive the money which is on
> the
> other side of the casino., making it impossible to tip at the table. The
> dealers
> rotated throughout the tournament which lasted about 1.5 hours. The dealers
> pool
> their tips in this casino and spend the majority of their time on the limit
> games and spend 20 minutes at the tourney per rotation. We had at least 4
> different dealers. This casino has only limit games below 5-10 & up and the
> players generally tip 1-2 per hand on the 5-10. 
>
> What is the appropriate ammount to tip in this situation? I struggled with the
> decission because so much was taken from the prize pool. ($150). I would love
> to
> hear from a dealer on their thoughts.



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