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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:53 am
Post subject: Early Tournament Scenario w/JT BAHH
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Cincy's shove reminded me of one I did a few days ago with JT. 1st hand
after the 1st break, I'm at a table I got moved to maybe 1-2 hands before
the break. I make a 'folks are still in the bathroom so i can steal their
blinds' raise w/JTo and get called by the button. I probably play well
after the flop.
Comments?
PokerStars Game #5706894331: Tournament #28499980, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit
- Level V (75/150) - 2006/07/27 - 23:46:34 (ET)
Table '28499980 7' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: johnahpoker (2550 in chips)
Seat 2: nicksj2 (3245 in chips)
Seat 3: phil1122 (2235 in chips)
Seat 4: sayhey48 (3100 in chips)
Seat 5: coolmay22 (1845 in chips)
Seat 6: PaulAtreides (5583 in chips)
Seat 7: FASTed101 (3540 in chips)
Seat 8: got tonkaed (4275 in chips)
Seat 9: BryanS408 (5355 in chips)
BryanS408: posts small blind 75
johnahpoker: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PaulAtreides [Td Jh]
nicksj2: folds
phil1122: folds
sayhey48: folds
coolmay22: folds
PaulAtreides: raises 300 to 450
FASTed101: folds
got tonkaed: calls 450
BryanS408: folds
johnahpoker: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [Tc 4s 9c]
johnahpoker: checks
PaulAtreides: bets 900
got tonkaed: raises 2925 to 3825 and is all-in
johnahpoker: folds
PaulAtreides: calls 2925
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:10 am
Post subject: Re: Early Tournament Scenario w/JT BAHH [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Aug 2 2006 11:53 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> Cincy's shove reminded me of one I did a few days ago with JT. 1st hand
> after the 1st break, I'm at a table I got moved to maybe 1-2 hands before
> the break. I make a 'folks are still in the bathroom so i can steal their
> blinds' raise w/JTo and get called by the button. I probably play well
> after the flop.
>
> Comments?
>
> PokerStars Game #5706894331: Tournament #28499980, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit
> - Level V (75/150) - 2006/07/27 - 23:46:34 (ET)
> Table '28499980 7' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
> Seat 1: johnahpoker (2550 in chips)
> Seat 2: nicksj2 (3245 in chips)
> Seat 3: phil1122 (2235 in chips)
> Seat 4: sayhey48 (3100 in chips)
> Seat 5: coolmay22 (1845 in chips)
> Seat 6: PaulAtreides (5583 in chips)
> Seat 7: FASTed101 (3540 in chips)
> Seat 8: got tonkaed (4275 in chips)
> Seat 9: BryanS408 (5355 in chips)
> BryanS408: posts small blind 75
> johnahpoker: posts big blind 150
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to PaulAtreides [Td Jh]
> nicksj2: folds
> phil1122: folds
> sayhey48: folds
> coolmay22: folds
> PaulAtreides: raises 300 to 450
> FASTed101: folds
> got tonkaed: calls 450
> BryanS408: folds
> johnahpoker: calls 300
> *** FLOP *** [Tc 4s 9c]
> johnahpoker: checks
> PaulAtreides: bets 900
> got tonkaed: raises 2925 to 3825 and is all-in
> johnahpoker: folds
> PaulAtreides: calls 2925
New table, no reads?
Hmmm....4x clubs is unlikely but possible I guess. AT/KT/QT are all
possible, as is T9. Club draw + overpair is pretty likely. Only hand
you're really ahead of here is something like A9.
Seems like a pretty easy fold. So the call seems pretty dumb.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:14 am
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On Aug 2 2006 10:53 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> Cincy's shove reminded me of one I did a few days ago with JT. 1st hand
> after the 1st break, I'm at a table I got moved to maybe 1-2 hands before
> the break. I make a 'folks are still in the bathroom so i can steal their
> blinds' raise w/JTo and get called by the button. I probably play well
> after the flop.
>
> Comments?
> BryanS408: posts small blind 75
> johnahpoker: posts big blind 150
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to PaulAtreides [Td Jh]
> nicksj2: folds
> phil1122: folds
> sayhey48: folds
> coolmay22: folds
> PaulAtreides: raises 300 to 450
Worth a shot.
> FASTed101: folds
> got tonkaed: calls 450
Called by the button. Dang.
> BryanS408: folds
> johnahpoker: calls 300
> *** FLOP *** [Tc 4s 9c]
> johnahpoker: checks
> PaulAtreides: bets 900
Good continuation bet.
> got tonkaed: raises 2925 to 3825 and is all-in
*busted*
> johnahpoker: folds
> PaulAtreides: calls 2925
2325 in the pot before his raise plus his raise is 6150. Pot's laying
about 2 to 1. What range of hands did you put him on? Would he make this
play on a flush draw or two overs? If you fold you still have over 4000
chips. Personally, I wouldn't make this call if I was on a steal, hit top
pair bad kicker, and ran into a overbet all-in. Just call me a pussy here.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:14 am
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On Aug 2 2006 11:53 AM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> Cincy's shove reminded me of one I did a few days ago with JT. 1st hand
> after the 1st break, I'm at a table I got moved to maybe 1-2 hands before
> the break. I make a 'folks are still in the bathroom so i can steal their
> blinds' raise w/JTo and get called by the button. I probably play well
> after the flop.
>
> Comments?
>
> PokerStars Game #5706894331: Tournament #28499980, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit
> - Level V (75/150) - 2006/07/27 - 23:46:34 (ET)
> Table '28499980 7' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
> Seat 1: johnahpoker (2550 in chips)
> Seat 2: nicksj2 (3245 in chips)
> Seat 3: phil1122 (2235 in chips)
> Seat 4: sayhey48 (3100 in chips)
> Seat 5: coolmay22 (1845 in chips)
> Seat 6: PaulAtreides (5583 in chips)
> Seat 7: FASTed101 (3540 in chips)
> Seat 8: got tonkaed (4275 in chips)
> Seat 9: BryanS408 (5355 in chips)
> BryanS408: posts small blind 75
> johnahpoker: posts big blind 150
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to PaulAtreides [Td Jh]
> nicksj2: folds
> phil1122: folds
> sayhey48: folds
> coolmay22: folds
> PaulAtreides: raises 300 to 450
> FASTed101: folds
> got tonkaed: calls 450
> BryanS408: folds
> johnahpoker: calls 300
> *** FLOP *** [Tc 4s 9c]
> johnahpoker: checks
> PaulAtreides: bets 900
> got tonkaed: raises 2925 to 3825 and is all-in
> johnahpoker: folds
> PaulAtreides: calls 2925
Calling an all in and raising all in are 2 different things. This is an
easy fold and doesnt represent at all what I did with JT.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:19 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:25 am
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> Calling an all in and raising all in are 2 different things. This is an
> easy fold and doesnt represent at all what I did with JT.
True. There is a world of difference between pushing with the TJ and
meekly calling someone that called the preflop raise AND check raised you
their stack on the flop.
I dump the hand, and if it was a steal, well played sir. You're still at
the break with 4000 chips which is more than double, and probably about
1000+ chips ahead of the average.
Aodhan
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:39 am
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On Aug 2 2006 11:25 AM, Aodhan wrote:
> > Calling an all in and raising all in are 2 different things. This is an
> > easy fold and doesnt represent at all what I did with JT.
>
> True. There is a world of difference between pushing with the TJ and
> meekly calling someone that called the preflop raise AND check raised you
> their stack on the flop.
I didn't meekly call, calling was the most aggressive action I could take.
Also, he didn't checkraise.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:42 am
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On Aug 2 2006 12:39 PM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> On Aug 2 2006 11:25 AM, Aodhan wrote:
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> > > Calling an all in and raising all in are 2 different things. This is an
> > > easy fold and doesnt represent at all what I did with JT.
> >
> > True. There is a world of difference between pushing with the TJ and
> > meekly calling someone that called the preflop raise AND check raised you
> > their stack on the flop.
>
> I didn't meekly call, calling was the most aggressive action I could take.
> Also, he didn't checkraise.
You called an all in. That IS the weakest play you can make in poker
without the nuts.
NH, dipshit.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:47 am
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> I didn't meekly call, calling was the most aggressive action I could take.
> Also, he didn't checkraise.
*** FLOP *** [Tc 4s 9c]
johnahpoker: checks
PaulAtreides: bets 900
got tonkaed: raises 2925 to 3825 and is all-in
johnahpoker: folds
PaulAtreides: calls 2925
Dunno, sure as shit looks like a checkraise to me. He checked, you bet, he
raised all in.
Yeah, that's a checkraise all right.
Aodhan
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:49 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:50 am
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On Aug 2 2006 12:47 PM, Aodhan wrote:
> > I didn't meekly call, calling was the most aggressive action I could take.
> > Also, he didn't checkraise.
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> *** FLOP *** [Tc 4s 9c]
> johnahpoker: checks
> PaulAtreides: bets 900
> got tonkaed: raises 2925 to 3825 and is all-in
> johnahpoker: folds
> PaulAtreides: calls 2925
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> Dunno, sure as shit looks like a checkraise to me. He checked, you bet, he
> raised all in.
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> Yeah, that's a checkraise all right.
>
> Aodhan
GG Reading Comprehension.
Where did "got tonkaed" check?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:50 am
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On Aug 2 2006 11:47 AM, Aodhan wrote:
> > I didn't meekly call, calling was the most aggressive action I could take.
> > Also, he didn't checkraise.
>
> *** FLOP *** [Tc 4s 9c]
> johnahpoker: checks
> PaulAtreides: bets 900
> got tonkaed: raises 2925 to 3825 and is all-in
> johnahpoker: folds
> PaulAtreides: calls 2925
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> Dunno, sure as shit looks like a checkraise to me. He checked, you bet, he
> raised all in.
drink some coffee. johnahpoker checked, I bet, got tonkaed raised all in,
johnahpoker folded, I called.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:53 am
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On Aug 2 2006 12:50 PM, ChrisBrown wrote:
> On Aug 2 2006 11:47 AM, Aodhan wrote:
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> > > I didn't meekly call, calling was the most aggressive action I could
take.
> > > Also, he didn't checkraise.
> >
> > *** FLOP *** [Tc 4s 9c]
> > johnahpoker: checks
> > PaulAtreides: bets 900
> > got tonkaed: raises 2925 to 3825 and is all-in
> > johnahpoker: folds
> > PaulAtreides: calls 2925
> >
> > Dunno, sure as shit looks like a checkraise to me. He checked, you bet, he
> > raised all in.
>
> drink some coffee. johnahpoker checked, I bet, got tonkaed raised all in,
> johnahpoker folded, I called.
Called like the fucking donk that you are.
Well played.....
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:54 am
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> drink some coffee. johnahpoker checked, I bet, got tonkaed raised all in,
> johnahpoker folded, I called.
Man, I need to. I already posted that I misread it, though. 
I still dump it though, but that's just me.
Aodhan
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:00 am
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