Hand Analysis...

Did I play this correctly, should I have bet on the flop instead of just called?
Did I just get unlucky on the river? Thanks in advance...

PokerStars Game #13179123402: Tournament #66883606, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit
- Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/11 - 15:05:39 (ET)
Table '66883606 6' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: socavolivost (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: -WOWZA- (1390 in chips)
Seat 3: Sjprinter (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: KaspersRealm (2520 in chips)
Seat 5: Martijn73 (1750 in chips)
Seat 6: DEWLL (2290 in chips)
Seat 7: stang_racin (1380 in chips)
Seat 8: vochell (1240 in chips)
Seat 9: forty1983 (1450 in chips)
stang_racin: posts small blind 10
vochell: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stang_racin [6c 6h]
forty1983: folds
socavolivost: folds
-WOWZA-: calls 20
Sjprinter: folds
KaspersRealm: folds
Martijn73: calls 20
DEWLL: folds
stang_racin: calls 10
vochell: checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Ks 6s]
stang_racin: checks
vochell: checks
-WOWZA-: bets 100
Martijn73: folds
stang_racin: calls 100
vochell: folds
*** TURN *** [4h Ks 6s] [Jc]
stang_racin: checks
-WOWZA-: bets 250
stang_racin: raises 250 to 500
-WOWZA-: raises 770 to 1270 and is all-in
stang_racin: calls 760 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [4h Ks 6s Jc] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
stang_racin: shows [6c 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Jacks)
-WOWZA-: shows [6d Jd] (a full house, Jacks full of Sixes)
-WOWZA- collected 2800 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2800 | Rake 0
Board [4h Ks 6s Jc Jh]
Seat 1: socavolivost folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: -WOWZA- showed [6d Jd] and won (2800) with a full house, Jacks full of
Sixes
Seat 3: Sjprinter folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: KaspersRealm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Martijn73 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: DEWLL (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: stang_racin (small blind) showed [6c 6h] and lost with a full house,
Sixes full of Jacks
Seat 8: vochell (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: forty1983 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


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On Sun, 11 Nov 07 20:11:00 GMT, stang_racin <43087638.TakeThisOut@recpoker.com> wrote:

>Did I play this correctly, should I have bet on the flop instead of just called?
>Did I just get unlucky on the river? Thanks in advance...

>PokerStars Game #13179123402: Tournament #66883606, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit
>- Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/11 - 15:05:39 (ET)
>Table '66883606 6' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
>Seat 1: socavolivost (1460 in chips)
>Seat 2: -WOWZA- (1390 in chips)
>Seat 3: Sjprinter (1470 in chips)
>Seat 4: KaspersRealm (2520 in chips)
>Seat 5: Martijn73 (1750 in chips)
>Seat 6: DEWLL (2290 in chips)
>Seat 7: stang_racin (1380 in chips)
>Seat 8: vochell (1240 in chips)
>Seat 9: forty1983 (1450 in chips)
>stang_racin: posts small blind 10
>vochell: posts big blind 20
>*** HOLE CARDS ***
>Dealt to stang_racin [6c 6h]
>forty1983: folds
>socavolivost: folds
>-WOWZA-: calls 20

Add this guy to your buddy list.

>Sjprinter: folds
>KaspersRealm: folds
>Martijn73: calls 20
>DEWLL: folds
>stang_racin: calls 10
>vochell: checks
>*** FLOP *** [4h Ks 6s]

This flop is fairly mediocre for slowplaying. There's a flush draw
and a straight draw, although an unlikely one. But it isn't so horrible
I'd never slowplay.

>stang_racin: checks
>vochell: checks
>-WOWZA-: bets 100
>Martijn73: folds
>stang_racin: calls 100

I could raise here. But looking for this guy's entire stack, I don't see
anything incredibly wrong with laying low for a bit.

>vochell: folds
>*** TURN *** [4h Ks 6s] [Jc]
>stang_racin: checks
>-WOWZA-: bets 250
>stang_racin: raises 250 to 500

I usually don't like the call flop, minraise turn line, but there's nothing
particularly wrong with it here.

>-WOWZA-: raises 770 to 1270 and is all-in
>stang_racin: calls 760 and is all-in
>*** RIVER *** [4h Ks 6s Jc] [Jh]
>*** SHOW DOWN ***
>stang_racin: shows [6c 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Jacks)
>-WOWZA-: shows [6d Jd] (a full house, Jacks full of Sixes)
>-WOWZA- collected 2800 from pot
>*** SUMMARY ***
>Total pot 2800 | Rake 0
>Board [4h Ks 6s Jc Jh]
>Seat 1: socavolivost folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>Seat 2: -WOWZA- showed [6d Jd] and won (2800) with a full house, Jacks full of
>Sixes

It's a suckout by a clown playing a hand he shouldn't have even touched. Then
he didn't give the slightest thought to what you called the flop with and
minraised the turn with. Of course, the results are exactly what you want when
you slowplay: your opponent catches just enough to go broke with.

Personally, I'd raise the turn a little more. You don't want to give the flush
draw good odds to suck out, and if he's still coming at you on the turn, the
odds are he has something. I would have thought he had KJ or something
like that if not the flush draw. But I'd have charged him more on the turn.

Why I don't like the minraise on the turn, as sneaky as it may seem to do,
is that you have basically priced yourself in no matter what hits on the river
to call all-in.

However, if your opponent is on a draw, he can get away.

The Jh adds more likely straight draws and more importantly, gives your opponent
two pair to go broke with a fair amount of times. If he's on a draw, he'll pay
more to draw, and if he's hit two pair, he'd going to go broke either way. If
neither, it's unlikely he keeps bluffing at it or hits anything to call you with
on the river.

I certainly wouldn't have put this guy on J6 on the turn, but two pair of some
kind or a donkey top pair seems a likely hand and you might as well bust the
guy on the turn. In this case it doesn't matter. In the case of the flush
draws and straight draws you do better raising more. In the case of a nothing
hand, you aren't getting any more from him anyway.