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Poker Crackdog

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Since: Sep 19, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:50 am
Post subject: Help on PL holdem hand
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$1/$2 pot-limit holdem, live game, 8-handed. Average stack size 100-200
chips. I've got about 250.

I get [As 7s] in early position. Normally I will pass with this hand but
there are five or six limpers preflop on most hands, with few raises. So
I limp and only two players limp from late position. SB folds, BB checks,
4 see the flop.

Flop comes [Ac 9s 2s]. I have top pair, bad kicker, with the nut
four-flush. I bet the pot (about $9), the button calls, BB calls. Pot is
$27.

Turn comes [Ac 9s 2s 6d]. I didn't like getting 2 callers but I go ahead
and pot it again, $27. Button folds. Big blind calls the $27 and raises
another $40 on top. He's only got another $50 or so left in his stack
after the raise.

I put him on two pair or a set (maybe AK?). Whatever I put him on, I feel
like I need an ace or spade on the river to win. I figure, that's 9
spades plus 2 aces, 11 outs. So I've got 35 to 11 against making my hand
on the next card, or about 3.2 to 1 against. The pot is laying me 120 to
40, or about 3 to 1, so I fold, because even when I do make my hand, I'm
only going to be able to sell it for another $20 or at most $50. We asked
the dealer to peel off another card and a 9 came on the river. The BB
showed me A6.

So I'm thinking that folding in that spot was a pretty gutless play. What
do you think?

- Poker Crack Dog

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Calahan MacCool

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Since: Aug 24, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:43 am
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You are out of position to score big on this hand, barring a freak,
like two of you are drawing for the same flush, or your opponant
missplayes a big hand and lets you get there cheaply, then pays you
off.

Supposing you flopped a flush against a set. Thats the best
situation. But as it came down, what if you make your flush on the
turn, what type of action are you going to get behind you. You are
going to have to sell the hand pretty cheaply.

Now, take that hand on the button, bet the flop and you make your
flush on the turn, you might get a bluff or catch somebody making a
move on the pot representing the flush.

Out of position, win less, lose more, in position, win more, lose
less.

"Poker Crackdog" <anonymous DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3f6ab52f$0$234$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>...
> $1/$2 pot-limit holdem, live game, 8-handed. Average stack size 100-200
> chips. I've got about 250.
>
> I get [As 7s] in early position. Normally I will pass with this hand but
> there are five or six limpers preflop on most hands, with few raises. So
> I limp and only two players limp from late position. SB folds, BB checks,
> 4 see the flop.
>
> Flop comes [Ac 9s 2s]. I have top pair, bad kicker, with the nut
> four-flush. I bet the pot (about $9), the button calls, BB calls. Pot is
> $27.
>
> Turn comes [Ac 9s 2s 6d]. I didn't like getting 2 callers but I go ahead
> and pot it again, $27. Button folds. Big blind calls the $27 and raises
> another $40 on top. He's only got another $50 or so left in his stack
> after the raise.
>
> I put him on two pair or a set (maybe AK?). Whatever I put him on, I feel
> like I need an ace or spade on the river to win. I figure, that's 9
> spades plus 2 aces, 11 outs. So I've got 35 to 11 against making my hand
> on the next card, or about 3.2 to 1 against. The pot is laying me 120 to
> 40, or about 3 to 1, so I fold, because even when I do make my hand, I'm
> only going to be able to sell it for another $20 or at most $50. We asked
> the dealer to peel off another card and a 9 came on the river. The BB
> showed me A6.
>
> So I'm thinking that folding in that spot was a pretty gutless play. What
> do you think?
>
> - Poker Crack Dog
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Posted using RecPoker.com - http://www.recpoker.com

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