Question - Tip on slots handpays?

"Maverick" <bretroth DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Zero...zip...nada...stiff the bitch.


Y'know what Maverick? I swear to God I was intending to put a PS on my post
and say something like I would welcome the opinion of Maverick also but that
I think I already know what your advice would be. And there y'go. It took
you six minutes to tell me. Can I pick'em or what?

Anyway, this is a serious question. And I know you're just being Maverick.
I don't believe that you really stiff them in this situation, if you ever
even play machines. So I would still like to know what you REALLY toke,
because I know you are a knowledgeable and serious gambler. Believe me, I
roll my eyes (to myself) when I see some newbie at a poker table toking $3
from a $20 pot. Yes, it's ridiculous. But I never say anything. It's none
of my business. The dealers need to make a living. It's just that
obviously there has to be a "happy medium" that will work for someone who is
more serious about making money. And I am strongly against the idea
of stiffing anyone. That's just bad news and bad vibes. Nothing good will
come out of that behavior in the long run. I know better.

So I welcome any serious opinions. And yours too, Maverick.

-Paul

PS And btw, I still see the Guaranteed Play machines empty EVERYWHERE.
Nobody is playing them! (note to Jason, Arlo, and DaVoice)
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On Feb 4, 10:27�pm, "Paul Popinjay" <Popin....RemoveThis@popinjay.com> wrote:
> Anyway, this is a serious question. �And I know you're just being Maverick.
> I don't believe that you really stiff them in this situation, if you ever


Al Contrare. I've made a new years resolution because of doggystyle
to never make a gambling toke again. If anyone ever catches me toking
a dealer, slot bitch, floorman, etc, bring it to my attention and I
will pay you $100 cash on the spot.

I'm done with toking. Fuck all you dealers.
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"Maverick" <bretroth DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 4, 10:27?pm, "Paul Popinjay" <Popin... DeleteThis @popinjay.com> wrote:
> > Anyway, this is a serious question. ?And I know you're just being
> > Maverick.
> > I don't believe that you really stiff them in this situation, if you
> > ever


> Al Contrare. I've made a new years resolution because of doggystyle
> to never make a gambling toke again. If anyone ever catches me toking
> a dealer, slot bitch, floorman, etc, bring it to my attention and I
> will pay you $100 cash on the spot.

> I'm done with toking. Fuck all you dealers.



Ok, Maverick. I believe you. But that's because of a bet you made. That
does not stop you from giving me a serious answer to a serious question.
Let's put it this way. What do you THINK I should toke in these situations?
I'm leaning towards a percent on small to medium payouts like I described.
Obviously I am not going to give someone 1% if I hit a $100,000 jackpot. I
don't think I'd give my own mother a $1000, let alone some stranger.

I want to know what other RGPers toke when they play slots or video poker,
on small handpays of $500 to $2000. And there is no way I am ever going to
stiff the employees at a place where I plan to continue playing. It's just
not a viable option. And besides, I'm not cheap.

-Paul
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On Feb 4, 10:49�pm, "Paul Popinjay" <Popin....RemoveThis@popinjay.com> wrote:
> I want to know what other RGPers toke when they play slots or video poker,
> on small handpays of $500 to $2000. �And there is no way I am ever going to
> stiff the employees at a place where I plan to continue playing. �It's just
> not a viable option. �And besides, I'm not cheap.
>
> -Paul

Paul, I think giving tokes to people in no skill jobs adversly
affects their desire and motivation to move up into higher paying more
meaningful jobs.

Why would anyone become a doctor if they can make triple that being a
dealer, slot attendant, etc.

I can no longer even envision toking since you either toke too much
and wrongly reward a low skilled employee or you toke too little in
the mind of this employee and are given some sort of grief for your
effort. And, I'm certain these vegas employees all assume they should
be given a giant chunk of your handpay, so toking at all is a lose-
lose proposition.

If you stiff the employee, they can simply assume you don't know any
better.
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On Feb 5, 3:36�am, "da pickle" <jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com> wrote:
> (They will put Visene in your drink, Mav. �They really will. �Just a few
> drops will do it.)

1. I'm not talking about cocktail waitresses.
2. I have a solution for cocktail waitresses...don't use them. I've
long since stopped using them and just buy my soda from the ABC store.
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"Maverick"

> If you stiff the employee, they can simply assume
> you don't know any better.

What the heck ... I had to spend seconds reformatting your post and putting
in the markers.

WTF

(They will put Visene in your drink, Mav. They really will. Just a few
drops will do it.)
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"Maverick" <bretroth.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 5, 3:36?am, "da pickle" <jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com> wrote:
> (They will put Visene in your drink, Mav. ?They really will. ?Just a few
> drops will do it.)

1. I'm not talking about cocktail waitresses.
2. I have a solution for cocktail waitresses...don't use them. I've
long since stopped using them and just buy my soda from the ABC store.
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What the heck is going on, Mav ... have you changed your newsreader?

I just replied to two of your posts.

The first time, everything went along just fine. Like the one you quote
above.

Then I replied to one that was your reply to Irish Mike.

Your post added

- Unicode (UTF-

to the reference line. It did NOT format correctly. I think this may be
the first time (and now the second time) that this has happened.

What is going on? There are several posters that have this problem, but I
did not know you were one of them. What happened in between those posts?
Did you change some settings or something?

Also, look at those funny little boxes your newsreader is putting in my post
when you quote it. What is that all about?

I think you must have changed a setting or changed newsreaders or something.
What gives?
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"da pickle" <jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> What the heck is going on, Mav ... have you changed your newsreader?
>
> I just replied to two of your posts.
>
> The first time, everything went along just fine. Like the one you quote
> above.
>
> Then I replied to one that was your reply to Irish Mike.
>
> Your post added
>
> - Unicode (UTF-
>
> to the reference line. It did NOT format correctly. I think this may be
> the first time (and now the second time) that this has happened.
>
> What is going on? There are several posters that have this problem, but
> I did not know you were one of them. What happened in between those
> posts? Did you change some settings or something?
>
> Also, look at those funny little boxes your newsreader is putting in my
> post when you quote it. What is that all about?
>
> I think you must have changed a setting or changed newsreaders or
> something. What gives?


I dunno, Pickle. Everything about Maverick's posts seem fine to me. It
might be something wrong on your end. Have you renewed your confirmation
number in your profile lately?

-PP
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"Maverick" <bretroth.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Paul, I think giving tokes to people in no skill jobs adversly
> affects their desire and motivation to move up into higher paying more
> meaningful jobs.

> Why would anyone become a doctor if they can make triple that being a
> dealer, slot attendant, etc.

> I can no longer even envision toking since you either toke too much
> and wrongly reward a low skilled employee or you toke too little in
> the mind of this employee and are given some sort of grief for your
> effort. And, I'm certain these vegas employees all assume they should
> be given a giant chunk of your handpay, so toking at all is a lose-
> lose proposition.

> If you stiff the employee, they can simply assume you don't know any
> better.



Ok, Maverick. I appreciate your viewpoint. But stiffing is not an option
for me. I don't want to "over-toke", but merely want to keep my tokes in
line with not adversely affecting my bottom line. And the employees may not
remember my modest tokes, but I believe they sure as hell would remember a
stiff. That is something I do not want to be recognized for.

Now on the other hand, if I were visiting some casino on the other side of
the country where I am sure I would never go again, I might very well stiff
them. It's quite possible.

Thanks,
-Paul
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On Feb 4 2008 10:11 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> I'd like to ask some others what they think is a reasonable tip for some of
> the smaller handpays on slots and video poker.
>
> Most modern machines do not stop the action when the payoff is under $1200
> and there is no need to get your ID and info. But there are many older
> machines in Vegas that require a handpay for amounts even as small as $500.
>
> What do you think is a "reasonable" toke for the attendant who takes care of
> your payout? I'm not talking about big jackpots. I'm talking like $500,
> $1000, $2000. Is 1% ok? Slip the girl a five, a ten, or a twenty,
> respectively?
>
> I am mainly interested in what others have to say who do this regularly. I
> understand there are "tourists" or "ploppies" who OVER-toke. And, of
> course, on the other side of the coin would be stiffs who under-toke. I
> want to know what respected gamblers who take gambling seriously generally
> toke in these situations, something that's not too big and not too small.
>
> Thanks,
> -Paul

It is apparent that you are trying to imitate a "respected gambler".
You have zero chance of ever doing so!!!!

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If it's a payout of $800 or more I will tip $10-$20 depending on their attitude.
If they are coming by just to fill the till, I do not tip.

T

On Feb 4 2008 11:11 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> I'd like to ask some others what they think is a reasonable tip for some of
> the smaller handpays on slots and video poker.
>
> Most modern machines do not stop the action when the payoff is under $1200
> and there is no need to get your ID and info. But there are many older
> machines in Vegas that require a handpay for amounts even as small as $500.
>
> What do you think is a "reasonable" toke for the attendant who takes care of
> your payout? I'm not talking about big jackpots. I'm talking like $500,
> $1000, $2000. Is 1% ok? Slip the girl a five, a ten, or a twenty,
> respectively?
>
> I am mainly interested in what others have to say who do this regularly. I
> understand there are "tourists" or "ploppies" who OVER-toke. And, of
> course, on the other side of the coin would be stiffs who under-toke. I
> want to know what respected gamblers who take gambling seriously generally
> toke in these situations, something that's not too big and not too small.
>
> Thanks,
> -Paul



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On Feb 5 2008 6:44 AM, da pickle wrote:

> "Maverick" wrote in message
> news:a663ec1e-8cc9-4193-8a0d-970d888e3df0@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 5, 3:36?am, "da pickle" wrote:
> > (They will put Visene in your drink, Mav. ?They really will. ?Just a few
> > drops will do it.)
>
> 1. I'm not talking about cocktail waitresses.
> 2. I have a solution for cocktail waitresses...don't use them. I've
> long since stopped using them and just buy my soda from the ABC store.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------
>
>
> What the heck is going on, Mav ... have you changed your newsreader?
>
> I just replied to two of your posts.
>
> The first time, everything went along just fine. Like the one you quote
> above.
>
> Then I replied to one that was your reply to Irish Mike.
>
> Your post added
>
> - Unicode (UTF-
>
> to the reference line. It did NOT format correctly. I think this may be
> the first time (and now the second time) that this has happened.
>
> What is going on? There are several posters that have this problem, but I
> did not know you were one of them. What happened in between those posts?
> Did you change some settings or something?
>
> Also, look at those funny little boxes your newsreader is putting in my post
> when you quote it. What is that all about?
>
> I think you must have changed a setting or changed newsreaders or something.
> What gives?

Clearly his newsreader has diagnosed your posts as having "all hat and no
cattle."

To avoid this problem in the future, please bring more cattle. Or less hat.


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On Feb 5 2008 12:11 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> I'd like to ask some others what they think is a reasonable tip for some of
> the smaller handpays on slots and video poker.
>
> Most modern machines do not stop the action when the payoff is under $1200
> and there is no need to get your ID and info. But there are many older
> machines in Vegas that require a handpay for amounts even as small as $500.
>
> What do you think is a "reasonable" toke for the attendant who takes care of
> your payout? I'm not talking about big jackpots. I'm talking like $500,
> $1000, $2000. Is 1% ok? Slip the girl a five, a ten, or a twenty,
> respectively?
>
> I am mainly interested in what others have to say who do this regularly. I
> understand there are "tourists" or "ploppies" who OVER-toke. And, of
> course, on the other side of the coin would be stiffs who under-toke. I
> want to know what respected gamblers who take gambling seriously generally
> toke in these situations, something that's not too big and not too small.
>
> Thanks,
> -Paul

Where are you playing that requires hand pays for a few hundred bucks?  Since
TITO I don't think I've had to deal with a hand pay for a non W2G event unless
it was a progressive.  Even quarter royals just rack up credits on the machine. 

I used to tip nada for hopper fills.  $10 for a $1000 royal.  $20 if I was
toasted or in a good mood.  $20 for a dollar royal to as much as $40.  Tipping
on hands that come frequently though is really going to cut in to expectation.

I think 1% is acceptable and as usual with tipping anything goes.  I used to
play bartops where the bartenders would frown at anything less than 10%.  I
almost offered to let them play and let me serve the drinks.

Chandler


 

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