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On Sep 18 2006 5:51 PM, sng wrote:

> John A. Fish wrote:
> >
> >>> Besides, why would they accuse you of chip dumping heads up when you
> >>> can transfer money to someone through their site by simply hitting a
> >>> button....that is unelss you planned on colluding with that person and
> >>> wouldn't want the transfer recorded...hmmmmmmmmmm
> >>
> >>
> >> HIs opponent had deposited $4,000 using a stolen credit card or a
> >> Neteller
> >> InstaCash that bounced or some other such scam. A transfer is
> >> transparent and
> >> the room will block the cashout until the deposit clears. So, they
> >> dumped the
> >> chips in a heads up room.
> >
> >
> > You may be right about it being a dump but why not give the OP the
> > benefit of the doubt. He says he won 80BB in an hour playing heads-up.
> > This is not an impossible thing even at 25/50. Even if his opponent
> > was using a stolen card and decided to play like a complete moron, it
> > does not necessarily mean that the OP knew about it. His opponent was
> > going to lose it to someone, right?
> >
> > The OP may have a motive for his post. Maybe he was scamming. Maybe he
> > hates absolute poker. Or maybe he just wants the $4,000 he believes he
> > won fair and square.
> >
> > - John Fish
>
> Sites have considerable information available to them, when
> investigating these cases. IP addresses both public and private, records
> of machines players have logged in from, all of the hole cards, history
> of all previous games played.
>
> The OP claiming, "He just kept betting and folding i guess missing his
> draws.", is completely unrealistic and not believable. How many hands
> did the maniac win, how many times did the maniac fold. I suspect the
> maniac won zero hands.
>
> The OP lacks credibility. He provided no evidence, no hand histories,
> nothing. He is the one, making serious and public accusations that can
> hurt an online business, without providing any evidence.
>
> He should not be given the benefit of the doubt until he provides some
> evidence.

This phrase was particularly suspect.

" there was nothing illegal done on my end."

I thought that was an odd phrase.  It convinced me it was a scam.

Gary Carson
http://www.garycarson.com



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On Sep 18 2006 3:49 PM, rzitup wrote:

> On Sep 18 2006 11:34 AM, Jon M wrote:
>
> > Im new to this site not sure if i posted this in the right scetion.
> >
> > I recently played high stakes on absolute poker heads up tables. 25-50.
> > I played for just under an hour and won about 4k off this maniac. He just
> kept
> > betting and folding i guess missing his draws.
> > I goto cashout 1 day down the road. Everything seems fine they say they need
> 48
> > hours to process the cashout which is fine. 72 hours pass and i recieve no
> email
> > or nothing, so i decide to log into my poker account. When i goto login it
> says
> > login ID not recognized. I know i was inserting the right password and login
> ID.
> > So i email support, after 24 hours of no responce i search the internet for
> > a
> > toll free support number and finally find one. After calling them on the
> phone
> > they said they are investigating into my account and i will receive an email
> in
> > 24 hours. So i wait again only to find out that they do not e-mail me. Now
> today
> > comes along and i call them explaining the situation. I speak to someone
> named
> > adrian from security at absolute poker. He had gone ahead and told me that
> > my
> > account had been closed becuase of chip dumping. I was completly shocked.
> First
> > time i cash in for big money online there was nothing illegal done on my
> > end.
> > The big question is what can i do to recover my funds. Im very heated up
> about
> > this situation. I already planned on paying off some of my o.s.a.p loan with
> > this money and now i stand to lose the money i intiatally deposited off my
> > credit card. Can someone give me some suggestions on the whole situation.
> >
> > thanks,
> > jon M
> >
> > p.s my screen name on absolute poker is mouldy may have played with some of
> you
> > at 5-10 10-20 25-50
>
> There is nothing anyone here can do to help you. It is between you and
> Absolute. If the 'maniac' dumped chips to you, whether you knew it or
> not, Absolute will not being giving you the money. It would be no
> different than me robbing a bank, then depositing the money into your
> account to hide it. The bank wouldnt let you keep it.

   Very nice that an online crook working for the criminal empire would use a
bank robbery analogy. Playing at Party Poker is VERY similar to a bank robbery.
Hi Mikey, hey are you allowed in the country? Hope you're doing well. Nice to
see your nose is out of the "main crooks" (Ruth) ass, long enough to make a
post. God bless you and the other scumbag criminals at Party , Mike. Good luck.

                                                                                
            Tony Popejoy


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Innocent people have had their accounts locked on suspicion of being part
of a chip dumping scheme, pending investigation. I'm one of them.

> I recently played high stakes on absolute poker heads up tables. 25-50.
> I played for just under an hour and won about 4k off this maniac. He just
kept
> betting and folding i guess missing his draws.

This type of behavior is very consistent with chip dumping. It is very
inconsistent with the way that a maniac really plays. A true maniac
wouldn't be betting and folding. He'd be betting and bluffing on the end
a fair amount of them time, and he'd be occasionally be betting on the end
with the best hand.

In my case, it was obvious that I wasn't involved in chip dumping as soon
as they looked at the hand histories, and access to my account was
restored.

If there is any reason for us, or for Absolute Poker, to believe that you
were not involved in such a scheme, I suggest you present it.

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I know nothing about Absolute.

Assuming you are not a troll: Find out what jurisdiction the poker site
operates under. Make a formal complaint to the tribal regulators, or
whatever they are.


"Jon M" <43086172.RemoveThis@recpoker.com> wrote in message
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> Im new to this site not sure if i posted this in the right scetion.
>
> I recently played high stakes on absolute poker heads up tables. 25-50.
> I played for just under an hour and won about 4k off this maniac. He just
> kept
> betting and folding i guess missing his draws.
> I goto cashout 1 day down the road. Everything seems fine they say they
> need 48
> hours to process the cashout which is fine. 72 hours pass and i recieve no
> email
> or nothing, so i decide to log into my poker account. When i goto login it
> says
> login ID not recognized. I know i was inserting the right password and
> login ID.
> So i email support, after 24 hours of no responce i search the internet
> for a
> toll free support number and finally find one. After calling them on the
> phone
> they said they are investigating into my account and i will receive an
> email in
> 24 hours. So i wait again only to find out that they do not e-mail me. Now
> today
> comes along and i call them explaining the situation. I speak to someone
> named
> adrian from security at absolute poker. He had gone ahead and told me that
> my
> account had been closed becuase of chip dumping. I was completly shocked.
> First
> time i cash in for big money online there was nothing illegal done on my
> end.
> The big question is what can i do to recover my funds. Im very heated up
> about
> this situation. I already planned on paying off some of my o.s.a.p loan
> with
> this money and now i stand to lose the money i intiatally deposited off my
> credit card. Can someone give me some suggestions on the whole situation.
>
> thanks,
> jon M
>
> p.s my screen name on absolute poker is mouldy may have played with some
> of you
> at 5-10 10-20 25-50
>
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