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(Msg. 46) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:39 pm
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> I suppose I'm really trying to understand the negative perception
> based on those who take part in the lifestyle itself?
I've been hanging around card rooms in California and playing for a
lving off and on for almost 35 years and while your intentions may
seem noble, insofar as you want to be closer to your daughter, it
doesn't seem to me that you're really looking at the overall "big
picture".
Let's just say for a minute that you take even some of the free advise
that's been offered up to you in this thread, none of which I would
disagree with, and you actually move to California and find that you
can grind out one big bet per hour from a 15-30 game. Personally I
doubt that you'll be able to but that's beside the point, let's just
say that you can. Than what?
As has been posted already, unless you want to play a minimum of 50-60
hours a week, that's not going to be enough to survive. I don't care
what anyone else tells you, you can not afford any kind of decent life
for yourself and your daughter in southern California on anything less
that $6-7k per month income and that's every f'ing month, month in and
month out.
OK so now let's just say that by some miracle, this actually happens
and you're playing 60 hours a week and making your $30 bucks an hour.
How what? What have you got planned for your off time?
I'll tell you what happens... you start to lose your soul and you
become someone different that who you are right now. Because no matter
how good a poker player you become some day, the fact of that matter
is playing poker is one of the most singularly spiritually and
emotionally unfulfilling things that you can do for a living that I'm
aware of. The only exception to this would be if you were a compulsive
gambler. Than you can just fall back on that old adage of "the only
thing that feels better than winning a thousand is losing a
thousand".
So, now, does this give you some more insight into "the negative
perception based on those who take part in the lifestyle itself?"
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:18 pm
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On Feb 10, 4:39 pm, Clearlight <marc.ev....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I suppose I'm really trying to understand the negative perception
> > based on those who take part in the lifestyle itself?
>
> I've been hanging around card rooms in California and playing for a
> lving off and on for almost 35 years and while your intentions may
> seem noble, insofar as you want to be closer to your daughter, it
> doesn't seem to me that you're really looking at the overall "big
> picture".
>
> Let's just say for a minute that you take even some of the free advise
> that's been offered up to you in this thread, none of which I would
> disagree with, and you actually move to California and find that you
> can grind out one big bet per hour from a 15-30 game. Personally I
> doubt that you'll be able to but that's beside the point, let's just
> say that you can. Than what?
>
> As has been posted already, unless you want to play a minimum of 50-60
> hours a week, that's not going to be enough to survive. I don't care
> what anyone else tells you, you can not afford any kind of decent life
> for yourself and your daughter in southern California on anything less
> that $6-7k per month income and that's every f'ing month, month in and
> month out.
>
> OK so now let's just say that by some miracle, this actually happens
> and you're playing 60 hours a week and making your $30 bucks an hour.
> How what? What have you got planned for your off time?
>
> I'll tell you what happens... you start to lose your soul and you
> become someone different that who you are right now. Because no matter
> how good a poker player you become some day, the fact of that matter
> is playing poker is one of the most singularly spiritually and
> emotionally unfulfilling things that you can do for a living that I'm
> aware of. The only exception to this would be if you were a compulsive
> gambler. Than you can just fall back on that old adage of "the only
> thing that feels better than winning a thousand is losing a
> thousand".
>
> So, now, does this give you some more insight into "the negative
> perception based on those who take part in the lifestyle itself?"
>
> Good luck with whatever you should decide.
Except that, people are saying that I should be able to get a job that
pays $80 to $100k a year and that, in comparison, poker is pretty
crappy. Well, I know a lot of people in California and I don' t know
many that earn that kind of income. My ex-wife is an attorney and she
makes around $85-90 or so. My girlfriend is a hairdresser and she's
earning probably half that. In comparison to other job offers and the
time involved, $60k seems like a decent living. People argue that it
doesn't compare because other jobs have benefits, but that $60k cash
still beats post-doc income or teaching junior college or a lot of
other things- and that's assuming I am completely honest with the
government about every dollar I won. So I just view the income based
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:20 pm
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On Feb 10, 6:32 pm, "brewmaster" <brewmas....TakeThisOut@brewcam.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10 2008 3:18 PM, Preston wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 4:39 pm, Clearlight <marc.ev....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I suppose I'm really trying to understand the negative perception
> > > > based on those who take part in the lifestyle itself?
>
> > > I've been hanging around card rooms in California and playing for a
> > > lving off and on for almost 35 years and while your intentions may
> > > seem noble, insofar as you want to be closer to your daughter, it
> > > doesn't seem to me that you're really looking at the overall "big
> > > picture".
>
> > > Let's just say for a minute that you take even some of the free advise
> > > that's been offered up to you in this thread, none of which I would
> > > disagree with, and you actually move to California and find that you
> > > can grind out one big bet per hour from a 15-30 game. Personally I
> > > doubt that you'll be able to but that's beside the point, let's just
> > > say that you can. Than what?
>
> > > As has been posted already, unless you want to play a minimum of 50-60
> > > hours a week, that's not going to be enough to survive. I don't care
> > > what anyone else tells you, you can not afford any kind of decent life
> > > for yourself and your daughter in southern California on anything less
> > > that $6-7k per month income and that's every f'ing month, month in and
> > > month out.
>
> > > OK so now let's just say that by some miracle, this actually happens
> > > and you're playing 60 hours a week and making your $30 bucks an hour.
> > > How what? What have you got planned for your off time?
>
> > > I'll tell you what happens... you start to lose your soul and you
> > > become someone different that who you are right now. Because no matter
> > > how good a poker player you become some day, the fact of that matter
> > > is playing poker is one of the most singularly spiritually and
> > > emotionally unfulfilling things that you can do for a living that I'm
> > > aware of. The only exception to this would be if you were a compulsive
> > > gambler. Than you can just fall back on that old adage of "the only
> > > thing that feels better than winning a thousand is losing a
> > > thousand".
>
> > > So, now, does this give you some more insight into "the negative
> > > perception based on those who take part in the lifestyle itself?"
>
> > > Good luck with whatever you should decide.
>
> > Except that, people are saying that I should be able to get a job that
> > pays $80 to $100k a year and that, in comparison, poker is pretty
> > crappy. Well, I know a lot of people in California and I don' t know
> > many that earn that kind of income. My ex-wife is an attorney and she
> > makes around $85-90 or so. My girlfriend is a hairdresser and she's
> > earning probably half that. In comparison to other job offers and the
> > time involved, $60k seems like a decent living. People argue that it
> > doesn't compare because other jobs have benefits, but that $60k cash
> > still beats post-doc income or teaching junior college or a lot of
> > other things- and that's assuming I am completely honest with the
> > government about every dollar I won. So I just view the income based
> > criticism of the move as being really without much merit.
>
> You sound like you want to do it, and you have given it some thought. I
> would like to hear how it turns out for you. I live in L.A. (and have my
> whole life) and have played the 15/30 and 20/40 quite a bit at Hollywood
> Park, Commerce, Hustler (not so much at the Bike because I don't speak
> Chinese). I play mostly at Pechanga now, but their 15/30 and 20/40 are
> gone because of the NL games. I know most of the people you will be
> playing against in those games in L.A., and (although I'm not a great
> player) consider those to be tough games.
>
> Good luck, and let us know how it turns out. Post here when you get out
> here and start playing and I'll come by your table and say hi.
>
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I surely will. Although by reading your perceptions of the players
involved it's pretty clear we're talking about different players. It
seems like around midnight in LA casinos the $15-30 games become
collections of live players who seem to act as though money grows on
trees. I'm sure experience changes from one casino to another and a
lot of it depends on time and, as I mentioned, I have limited
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:32 pm
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On Feb 10 2008 3:18 PM, Preston wrote:
> On Feb 10, 4:39 pm, Clearlight <marc.ev....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I suppose I'm really trying to understand the negative perception
> > > based on those who take part in the lifestyle itself?
> >
> > I've been hanging around card rooms in California and playing for a
> > lving off and on for almost 35 years and while your intentions may
> > seem noble, insofar as you want to be closer to your daughter, it
> > doesn't seem to me that you're really looking at the overall "big
> > picture".
> >
> > Let's just say for a minute that you take even some of the free advise
> > that's been offered up to you in this thread, none of which I would
> > disagree with, and you actually move to California and find that you
> > can grind out one big bet per hour from a 15-30 game. Personally I
> > doubt that you'll be able to but that's beside the point, let's just
> > say that you can. Than what?
> >
> > As has been posted already, unless you want to play a minimum of 50-60
> > hours a week, that's not going to be enough to survive. I don't care
> > what anyone else tells you, you can not afford any kind of decent life
> > for yourself and your daughter in southern California on anything less
> > that $6-7k per month income and that's every f'ing month, month in and
> > month out.
> >
> > OK so now let's just say that by some miracle, this actually happens
> > and you're playing 60 hours a week and making your $30 bucks an hour.
> > How what? What have you got planned for your off time?
> >
> > I'll tell you what happens... you start to lose your soul and you
> > become someone different that who you are right now. Because no matter
> > how good a poker player you become some day, the fact of that matter
> > is playing poker is one of the most singularly spiritually and
> > emotionally unfulfilling things that you can do for a living that I'm
> > aware of. The only exception to this would be if you were a compulsive
> > gambler. Than you can just fall back on that old adage of "the only
> > thing that feels better than winning a thousand is losing a
> > thousand".
> >
> > So, now, does this give you some more insight into "the negative
> > perception based on those who take part in the lifestyle itself?"
> >
> > Good luck with whatever you should decide.
>
> Except that, people are saying that I should be able to get a job that
> pays $80 to $100k a year and that, in comparison, poker is pretty
> crappy. Well, I know a lot of people in California and I don' t know
> many that earn that kind of income. My ex-wife is an attorney and she
> makes around $85-90 or so. My girlfriend is a hairdresser and she's
> earning probably half that. In comparison to other job offers and the
> time involved, $60k seems like a decent living. People argue that it
> doesn't compare because other jobs have benefits, but that $60k cash
> still beats post-doc income or teaching junior college or a lot of
> other things- and that's assuming I am completely honest with the
> government about every dollar I won. So I just view the income based
> criticism of the move as being really without much merit.
You sound like you want to do it, and you have given it some thought. I
would like to hear how it turns out for you. I live in L.A. (and have my
whole life) and have played the 15/30 and 20/40 quite a bit at Hollywood
Park, Commerce, Hustler (not so much at the Bike because I don't speak
Chinese). I play mostly at Pechanga now, but their 15/30 and 20/40 are
gone because of the NL games. I know most of the people you will be
playing against in those games in L.A., and (although I'm not a great
player) consider those to be tough games.
Good luck, and let us know how it turns out. Post here when you get out
here and start playing and I'll come by your table and say hi.
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:57 pm
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On Feb 10 2008 9:17 AM, Preston wrote:
> Actually Irish Mike I was considering messaging you personally to get
> some more of your insights into your own poker experiences.
From what i've gathered, Irish Mike is not experienced in playing fulltime
supporting himself as a poker professional. He lives on his "fortune 500"
pension, lives in Ohio, and flies off once a month to some poker destination
for the weekend. And his poker advice is regurgitated common sense (ie;
discipline and money management) that if you dont have by now, you're not ready
to take the plunge. Get your ass to LA or Vegas and mix it up with the real
grinders for a month to see what its like, not some weekend warrior who fancies
himself a poker pro.
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:57 pm
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On Feb 10 2008 9:57 AM, Abbey Johnsson wrote:
> On Feb 10 2008 9:17 AM, Preston wrote:
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> > Actually Irish Mike I was considering messaging you personally to get
> > some more of your insights into your own poker experiences.
>
> From what i've gathered, Irish Mike is not experienced in playing fulltime
> supporting himself as a poker professional. He lives on his "fortune 500"
> pension, lives in Ohio, and flies off once a month to some poker destination
> for the weekend. And his poker advice is regurgitated common sense (ie;
> discipline and money management) that if you dont have by now, you're not
ready
> to take the plunge. Get your ass to LA or Vegas and mix it up with the real
> grinders for a month to see what its like, not some weekend warrior who
fancies
> himself a poker pro.
Hey, what about the "read your laminated card while taking a dump"?
Nobody else has mentioned that before, it is unique to IM.
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The only meaningful criteria for being a successful poker player is the
ability to consistently win money. I've played in more than 130 poker rooms
in nine countries. I'm a consistent winner and I've never gone broke. I
don't apologize for having a successful corporate career or for being a good
money manager. I've played against hundreds of semi-broke "local pros" who
sit on their leather asses in the same poker room, year after year. They
don't have the money to travel or the guts to risk their skinny bankrolls
any where out side their home town. As far as I can tell abbey, you're just
another home town wanna be.
Irish Mike
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> On Feb 10 2008 9:17 AM, Preston wrote:
>
>> Actually Irish Mike I was considering messaging you personally to get
>> some more of your insights into your own poker experiences.
>
> From what i've gathered, Irish Mike is not experienced in playing fulltime
> supporting himself as a poker professional. He lives on his "fortune 500"
> pension, lives in Ohio, and flies off once a month to some poker
> destination
> for the weekend. And his poker advice is regurgitated common sense (ie;
> discipline and money management) that if you dont have by now, you're not
> ready
> to take the plunge. Get your ass to LA or Vegas and mix it up with the
> real
> grinders for a month to see what its like, not some weekend warrior who
> fancies
> himself a poker pro.
>
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:57 pm
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"brewmaster" <brewmaster.DeleteThis@brewcam.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 10 2008 9:57 AM, Abbey Johnsson wrote:
>
>> On Feb 10 2008 9:17 AM, Preston wrote:
>>
>> > Actually Irish Mike I was considering messaging you personally to get
>> > some more of your insights into your own poker experiences.
>>
>> From what i've gathered, Irish Mike is not experienced in playing
>> fulltime
>> supporting himself as a poker professional. He lives on his "fortune 500"
>> pension, lives in Ohio, and flies off once a month to some poker
>> destination
>> for the weekend. And his poker advice is regurgitated common sense (ie;
>> discipline and money management) that if you dont have by now, you're not
> ready
>> to take the plunge. Get your ass to LA or Vegas and mix it up with the
>> real
>> grinders for a month to see what its like, not some weekend warrior who
> fancies
>> himself a poker pro.
>
> Hey, what about the "read your laminated card while taking a dump"?
> Nobody else has mentioned that before, it is unique to IM.
Well brewster, I'm a consistent winner so I don't much care whether you
approve of the way I play - or not. I'm also smart enough to know that I
haven't yet reached your level of total poker knowledge.
Irish Mike
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On Feb 10 2008 12:00 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
> "brewmaster" <brewmaster RemoveThis @brewcam.com> wrote in message
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> > On Feb 10 2008 9:57 AM, Abbey Johnsson wrote:
> >
> >> On Feb 10 2008 9:17 AM, Preston wrote:
> >>
> >> > Actually Irish Mike I was considering messaging you personally to get
> >> > some more of your insights into your own poker experiences.
> >>
> >> From what i've gathered, Irish Mike is not experienced in playing
> >> fulltime
> >> supporting himself as a poker professional. He lives on his "fortune 500"
> >> pension, lives in Ohio, and flies off once a month to some poker
> >> destination
> >> for the weekend. And his poker advice is regurgitated common sense (ie;
> >> discipline and money management) that if you dont have by now, you're not
> > ready
> >> to take the plunge. Get your ass to LA or Vegas and mix it up with the
> >> real
> >> grinders for a month to see what its like, not some weekend warrior who
> > fancies
> >> himself a poker pro.
> >
> > Hey, what about the "read your laminated card while taking a dump"?
> > Nobody else has mentioned that before, it is unique to IM.
>
> Well brewster, I'm a consistent winner so I don't much care whether you
> approve of the way I play - or not. I'm also smart enough to know that I
> haven't yet reached your level of total poker knowledge.
>
> Irish Mike
Geez man, I was joking. I respect your posts a lot.
> >
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(Msg. 55) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:36 pm
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On Feb 10 2008 11:55 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> The only meaningful criteria for being a successful poker player is the
> ability to consistently win money. I've played in more than 130 poker rooms
> in nine countries. I'm a consistent winner and I've never gone broke. I
> don't apologize for having a successful corporate career or for being a good
> money manager. I've played against hundreds of semi-broke "local pros" who
> sit on their leather asses in the same poker room, year after year. They
> don't have the money to travel or the guts to risk their skinny bankrolls
> any where out side their home town. As far as I can tell abbey, you're just
> another home town wanna be.
>
> Irish Mike
Exactly! This guy is looking to become one of those leather asses, sitting in
LA day after day, month after month. Thats not your experience or style so he
shouldn't be looking to you for advice on how to survive as a poker pro. . He
won't have the luxury of a pension to fall back on. (And I'm not knocking your
pension, its well earned, use it).
I wonder how many hours of live poker you really put in per week or month. is
it full time? (Like our friend here wants to attempt). Do you really make
enough playing poker to cover your trip expenses AND provide for your upscale
lifestyle? My guess is that youre a well off person who supplements his income
by playing poker part time.
Btw, why are you so quick to lash out at people? Dont be so sensitive and
there'd be fewer people here picking on you.
I'm not sure what you mean by "wanna be", but playing poker for more than 2
hours a week is something i dont "wanna be".
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(Msg. 56) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:40 pm
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In article <1202521237$1105372@recpoker.com>,
Abbey Johnsson <43087474.RemoveThis@recpoker.com> wrote:
> It is? The median household income in the US is about 50k/year which is
>$25/hour. I didnt realize what a poor country the US is with the average
>household/personsurviving on"chump change".
The median income in major west-coast cities is higher because
the cost of living is significantly higher.
Bear in mind also that $50K/year usually includes significant
benefits like health insurance (minimum of around $300/month,
more if you're older or have a family), the employer's
contribution to social security (7.5%), paid vacation, and
quite a few other things. I just did some calculations on my
income, and my benefits are worth around $20K/year.
-Patti
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(Msg. 57) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:53 pm
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In article <8bb25e0f-2eef-408f-87ea-15cf4299a3fd.DeleteThis@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Preston <prestonpoulter.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I don't lack experience. I have logged thousands of hours playing and
>I don't understand why people don't respect that. But the feedback I'm
>getting here is all negative. So I suppose that answers my question.
Remember that we're used to seeing people come through here that
have a few hundred hours experience and think that they have
what it takes to play poker professionally. Almost none do.
How's your discipline? Can you force yourself to put in
the hours even after the seventh time this week that some
mouth-breathing neanderthal has cracked top set with two
undercards and a backdoor flush draw? Do you really have the
bankroll to ride out the fluctuations? Do you play well for
many-hour sessions, or does your game deteriorate? Can you
cope mentally with having two losing months in a row?
I'm not a hater-- I'm a realist. And I've played poker
professionally.
If you really want to go to LA, my recommendation is this:
get a job. In addition to the job, commit to spending at
at least 20 hours a week playing 15-30, until you have at
least 500 hours of experience in those games. That will
give you a much better feel for what your win rate is, how
much discipline you have, and what the fluctuations are like.
If you do well, it will also give you a beefier bankroll to
start with if you do decide to go pro.
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(Msg. 58) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:57 pm
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(Msg. 59) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:15 pm
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"Patti Beadles" <pattib.TakeThisOut@violet.rahul.net> wrote in message
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> In article <1202521237$1105372@recpoker.com>,
> Abbey Johnsson <43087474.TakeThisOut@recpoker.com> wrote:
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>> It is? The median household income in the US is about 50k/year which is
>>$25/hour. I didnt realize what a poor country the US is with the average
>>household/personsurviving on"chump change".
>
> The median income in major west-coast cities is higher because
> the cost of living is significantly higher.
>
> Bear in mind also that $50K/year usually includes significant
> benefits like health insurance (minimum of around $300/month,
> more if you're older or have a family), the employer's
> contribution to social security (7.5%), paid vacation, and
> quite a few other things. I just did some calculations on my
> income, and my benefits are worth around $20K/year.
>
PMFJI, but my question is this: Suppose you get up one day, and just don't
feel like playing poker? Do you take the day off, or force yourself back to
the daily grind?
This is intended as a serious question, not an attack, troll or any such.
Thanks,
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:15 pm
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"Palooka" <nobody.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Patti Beadles" <pattib.TakeThisOut@violet.rahul.net> wrote in message
> news:fonnga$tq$1@blue.rahul.net...
>> In article <1202521237$1105372@recpoker.com>,
>> Abbey Johnsson <43087474.TakeThisOut@recpoker.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It is? The median household income in the US is about 50k/year which is
>>>$25/hour. I didnt realize what a poor country the US is with the average
>>>household/personsurviving on"chump change".
>>
>> The median income in major west-coast cities is higher because
>> the cost of living is significantly higher.
>>
>> Bear in mind also that $50K/year usually includes significant
>> benefits like health insurance (minimum of around $300/month,
>> more if you're older or have a family), the employer's
>> contribution to social security (7.5%), paid vacation, and
>> quite a few other things. I just did some calculations on my
>> income, and my benefits are worth around $20K/year.
>>
> PMFJI, but my question is this: Suppose you get up one day, and just don't
> feel like playing poker? Do you take the day off, or force yourself back
> to the daily grind?
>
> This is intended as a serious question, not an attack, troll or any such.
>
> Thanks,
> Palooka
If you're smart, you don't play. Playing when you don't feel like it is a
guarantee that you're not going to play your "A" game. And that means
you're probably going to lose your money.
Irish Mike
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