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Since: Aug 04, 2007 Posts: 926
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(Msg. 76) Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:25 pm
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On Apr 6 2008 1:34 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
> On Apr 6 2008 4:03 PM, arlo payne wrote:
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> > On Apr 6 2008 12:03 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 6 2008 2:32 PM, arlo payne wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Apr 6 2008 9:44 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 5 2008 8:48 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 5 2008 7:39 PM, arlo payne wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Apr 5 2008 11:46 AM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My god you're a blathering idiot. "Toke away a new car?"
> > > Please...just
> > > > > > > > stop. A fucking $1 a pot! Give me a fucking break.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Big clue for you : It is never a good idea to call me an idiot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW
> > > > > > > How is it going with that drinking instead of spending time with
> that
> > > > > pretty
> > > > > > new
> > > > > > > born baby you walked out on? Yep you are a real smart man indeed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Classy
> > > > >
> > > > > Agreed. Arlo, what's up with all the hate? You're the guy that goes to
> > > > > the casino in his pajamas. Wasn't the hippie motto "make love, not
> war"?
> > > > >
> > > > > This post seems very much unlike you. Even if you don't approve of
> Cincy,
> > > > > I would think that you'd keep that to yourself.
> > > >
> > > > He called me an idiot for no reason.
> > > > I am sick of that kind of shit and when it happens from now on I will
> fire
> > > back.
> > > > Read what he said about me above
> > >
> > > That was actually to Russ. That said, you are obviously are an idiot.
> > > Since you brought my son into it I can only hope you attend BARGE so I can
> > > kick your ass. This isn't an idle threat. If you attend BARGE I am kicking
> > > your ass. That's a promise. What you said was uncalled for. It will be
> > > dealt with.
> > >
> > > I'm not gonna get into an argument with you for the next months leading up
> > > tp BARGE, either. I'm not even gonna mention it after this. I will go to
> > > BARGE. I'll have someone point you out to me. I will introduce myself and
> > > ask you to step outside. I will then proceed to beat your ass.
> > >
> > > Carry on.
> > Boy you are a very big tough man. First starting a fight with a person with
> a
> > heart conndition and hitting him will get you 10 in the pen.
> > Second why in the world do you thiink I would go to barge. I have never in
> the
> > past I dont even know where or when it is.
> > You make one more threat towards me or call me an idiot again without reason
> (
> > as you did when you started this) you just might find someone at barge
> looking
> > for you tough guy.
> > Now cut your crap before you learn to regret it. You are not in my league
> boy.
> > Oh and it WAS NOT Russ it was YOUR reply to my post that started this.
> > You call me names for no reason I will attack back and hard.
> >
> > Your words:
> >
> > My god you're a blathering idiot. "Toke away a new car?" Please...just
> > stop. A fucking $1 a pot! Give me a fucking break.
>
> No, it was to Russ. However, since you decided to bring my son into it I
> now have to kick your ass. That was your choice, not mine. I'm not
> kidding. You crossed the line, not me.
It was YOU asshole not Russ!. Read the flow it was from you to me.
What the fuck is your trip I even sent you a copy. Can't you even fucking read
what you wrote?
You now bore me.
Any asshole can threaten a guy with a heart condition. Yep you are a big man.
5 years ago I would just break your legs and move on but now I can't and you
know it which allows you to put out your bullshit. Trust me if you ever layed a
hand on me I would have you beaten to death.
But as it stands now I will just destroy you in the legal world. You see that
is the tool used these days by people with money past their prime and with more
brains than you will ever have. Pretty sure every $1,000 I spend which you had
to counter would feel like $10,000 so lets dance.
As it stands I plan on bringing charges against you in your HOME state for
slander and asualt. You see I don't care if I win (which I am pretty sure I
will) as long as I somewhat bury you in legal fees.
Send me your name and address and I will put an end to this shit within 14 days.
Trust me it is not my ass that will get kicked. You and your not kidding
bullshit could destroy you. I have a real bad mean streak when someone trys to
pull shit with me.
And trust me son I have the money to destroy your life and I am just sick enough
to spend it. So bring it on send me your name and address. I will then have a
lawyer in YOUR area start the case. Then all you have to do is sit back and
watch the games begin. If you don't have 10K to piss off in legal fees and/or
don't want to be a guess of the govenor you better stop your shit ASAP.
You need to grow the fuck up in more ways than one
As far as bringing your son iinto it, bullshit all I did was ask how your baby
was doiing since you walked out. You are the one that did that remember or did
tthe booze screw up your brain?. After all how in the world would I know you
had a kid when I don't even know who you are. Oh thats right I recalled all
your posts addressing how you were walking out on a new born and your wife so
you could be free. That sure is what a real man does
You are the one that started it with calling me an idiot
Also what are you 17? Threating to kick someones ass LOL.
This is the real world son where real shit happens.
Just sitting here waiting for your name and address
But I know you will not send it you will just continue to hide behind your
little username and insult people.
>
>
> > Your post:
> > On Apr 5 2008 3:46 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
> > On Apr 5 2008 12:11 PM, arlo payne wrote: > On Apr 5 2008 8:42 AM,
> MrBookworm
> > wrote: > > > > Because we're not cheap ass clowns. Unless you live under a
> > rock, you > > > should know that waiters and poker dealers are paid based on
> the
> > > > > expectation that they will receive tips. > > > > I do not equate
> waiters
> > and poker dealers. I am a decent tipper when I eat > > out, close to 20%. >
> > >
> > > > If you want to be an asshole, that's fine. Just don't expect others to
> be >
> > > > one too. > > > > I don't expect anyone else at the table to not tip. I
> only
> > explained why I > > don't. You are welcome to tip away, I jus don't think
> you're
> > getting any > > value for your money. If someone has a beef with me at the
> table
> > my point > > is that the house makes more than enough from the rake to pay
> > dealers a > > decent wage. > > > > Dean > > > Most semi full time players
> > dont understand they toke away a new car every year. > Many toke off way
> > more
> > than they make during the year. > If you are playing for a living paying
> > attention to what you toke off is very > important. If dealers dont
> understand
> > how it works then they are fools. > The full time players keep the games
> alive
> > allowing the dealers to work and make > tokes. If is a win win give give
> plan.
> > No dealer should be upset at a full > time players that tokes very little.
> My
> > god you're a blathering idiot. "Toke away a new car?" Please...just stop. A
> > fucking $1 a pot! Give me a fucking break.
It is only a phase these dark cafe days
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Since: Sep 21, 2007 Posts: 37
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(Msg. 77) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:16 am
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On Apr 6 2008 7:25 PM, arlo payne wrote:
Oh thats right I recalled all
> your posts addressing how you were walking out on a new born and your wife so
> you could be free. That sure is what a real man does
> You are the one that started it with calling me an idiot
> Also what are you 17? Threating to kick someones ass LOL.
> This is the real world son where real shit happens.
> Just sitting here waiting for your name and address
> But I know you will not send it you will just continue to hide behind your
> little username and insult people.
Bah...you both sound like goofballs.
Arlo- didnt you say youve been married 7 or 8 times? Thats not exactly
stability. Did they all walk out on you?
His name is Steve Smith from Trenton, Ohio. Any lawyer can figure out where he
lives. Now dont chicken out. Follow thru on this. Yeah, riiiiight.
Now back to your new car assertion. I think you made a wild, inaccurate
statement and when called on it, you tried to cover it up with some fancy math.
Hell, i could buy a new house every year by selling in my old one. That doesnt
mean i'm losing a new house every year in tips if i dont. Besides if youre
blowing 12k a year by trading in for a new model, why not just lease one for
half that?
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Since: Feb 19, 2008 Posts: 121
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(Msg. 78) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:10 am
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On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:21:13 -0500, FL Turbo <noemail.RemoveThis@notime.com>
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>On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:12:46 -0800, "XaQ Morphy"
><a1c5905.RemoveThis@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
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>>On Apr 4 2008 3:31 PM, Russ Georgiev wrote:
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>>> You're an Idiot Kid and Lute is right. In the big games, we used to take out
>>a
>>> $25 chip for the dealers half hour so no one tipped. Gigantic pots and tips
>>that
>>> added up to $1.00 at most in the biggest games in the casino's.
>>
>>Russ, here's your 3rd grade grammar lesson:
>>
>>1 casino = casino
>>2 or more of them = casinos
>>something that belongs to one of them = casino's
>>
>>Here's some sentences:
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>>Russ claims he is not allowed to set foot in any casino is Las Vegas.
>>Russ is afraid to play Barry Greenstein in any of the casinos that Barry
>>plays in.
>>Russ claims the casino's security staff won't allow him through the front
>>door.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>
>Thank you for your concern.
>I have always been 100% opposed to apostrophe abuse.
It's one of my pet peeve's.
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Since: Jan 17, 2007 Posts: 1931
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(Msg. 79) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:17 am
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On Apr 6 2008 8:08 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
> On Apr 5, 7:28 am, "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew... RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Apr 4 2008 7:30 PM, jimpepper wrote:
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> >
> >
> > > > *Of course, at BARGE, I tip very generously, and BARGERS as a rule,
while
> > at
> > > > BARGE are very lavish with their tokes.
> >
> > > Arg events are fun. Its not a grind it out life or death for profit
session.
> > > Everyone should tip generously for the hospitality
> > > of the casino staff. Hey its one fun weekend. I do Fargo every year.
> >
> > I really wish you'd make it out to BARGE one year. Not this year since
> > I'm going to be in to the IRS enough to prevent my trip. You're one of
> > the few long-time posters I'd like to meet.
> >
> WHAT!!!!!!
>
> I thought you were going to beat me up. And now you're not??
>
> You mean you were just running your mouth!?
You have a bad case of selective memory. If you'll recall, I offered to
buy you a few beers in your thread with the BARGE questions.
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Since: Aug 04, 2007 Posts: 926
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(Msg. 80) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:35 am
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On Apr 6 2008 5:16 PM, Abbey Johnsson wrote:
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> On Apr 6 2008 7:25 PM, arlo payne wrote:
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> Oh thats right I recalled all
> > your posts addressing how you were walking out on a new born and your wife
> > so
> > you could be free. That sure is what a real man does
> > You are the one that started it with calling me an idiot
> > Also what are you 17? Threating to kick someones ass LOL.
> > This is the real world son where real shit happens.
> > Just sitting here waiting for your name and address
> > But I know you will not send it you will just continue to hide behind your
> > little username and insult people.
>
> Bah...you both sound like goofballs.
>
> Arlo- didnt you say youve been married 7 or 8 times? Thats not exactly
> stability. Did they all walk out on you?
>
> His name is Steve Smith from Trenton, Ohio. Any lawyer can figure out where he
> lives. Now dont chicken out. Follow thru on this. Yeah, riiiiight.
>
> Now back to your new car assertion. I think you made a wild, inaccurate
> statement and when called on it, you tried to cover it up with some fancy
> math.
> Hell, i could buy a new house every year by selling in my old one. That
> doesnt
> mean i'm losing a new house every year in tips if i dont. Besides if youre
> blowing 12k a year by trading in for a new model, why not just lease one for
> half that?
No the 12K figure is correct just ask any pro.
As far as the other issues I hate it when someone decides to call someone an
idiot for no reason on RGP.
Sure my reply was strong but perhaps it will make him stop and think next time.
If you notice I almost never attack someone here unless they have attacked me or
a friend.
Real truth
I will not waste a dime on legal issues with him I just wanted to wake him up.
He will not hit anyone unless he is truly crazy and wants to destroy his life
I do find it strange someone would really put there life out there for everyone
to see then take offense when soneone brings up what they wrote in the first
place.
On the issue of me being married 8 times it was just a joke. The only personal
stuff I have ever posted about is myhealth. It helps explain alot at times when
soneone wonders where I have been or why I was not somewhere.
There are very few do overs in life and I do hope the Kid wakes up and reviews
where he is and what he is doing.
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Since: Jan 21, 2007 Posts: 1781
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(Msg. 81) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:41 am
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"Raider Fan"
>> I thought you were going to beat me up. And now you're not??
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>> You mean you were just running your mouth!?
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> You have a bad case of selective memory. If you'll recall, I offered to
> buy you a few beers in your thread with the BARGE questions.
I offered to buy both of you beer ... and you are not coming this year, RF?
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Since: Jan 17, 2007 Posts: 1931
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(Msg. 82) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:41 am
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On Apr 7 2008 7:41 AM, da pickle wrote:
> "Raider Fan"
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> >> I thought you were going to beat me up. And now you're not??
> >>
> >> You mean you were just running your mouth!?
> >
> > You have a bad case of selective memory. If you'll recall, I offered to
> > buy you a few beers in your thread with the BARGE questions.
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> I offered to buy both of you beer ... and you are not coming this year, RF?
> Bummer.
I haven't given up completely, but it's not looking too promising at this
point.
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(Msg. 83) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:05 am
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On Apr 7, 3:17 am, "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew....RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
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> On Apr 6 2008 8:08 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
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> > On Apr 5, 7:28 am, "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew....RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Apr 4 2008 7:30 PM, jimpepper wrote:
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> > > > > *Of course, at BARGE, I tip very generously, and BARGERS as a rule,
> while
> > > at
> > > > > BARGE are very lavish with their tokes.
>
> > > > Arg events are fun. Its not a grind it out life or death for profit
> session.
> > > > Everyone should tip generously for the hospitality
> > > > of the casino staff. Hey its one fun weekend. I do Fargo every year.
>
> > > I really wish you'd make it out to BARGE one year. Not this year since
> > > I'm going to be in to the IRS enough to prevent my trip. You're one of
> > > the few long-time posters I'd like to meet.
>
> > WHAT!!!!!!
>
> > I thought you were going to beat me up. And now you're not??
>
> > You mean you were just running your mouth!?
>
> You have a bad case of selective memory. If you'll recall, I offered to
> buy you a few beers in your thread with the BARGE questions.
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Actually that's a case of selective memory you're demonstrating. Do
you not remember threatening to beat the living shit out of me? Yes or
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(Msg. 84) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:33 am
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On Apr 7 2008 8:05 AM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
> On Apr 7, 3:17 am, "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew....DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > You have a bad case of selective memory. If you'll recall, I offered to
> > buy you a few beers in your thread with the BARGE questions.
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> Actually that's a case of selective memory you're demonstrating. Do
> you not remember threatening to beat the living shit out of me? Yes or
> no. Is that going to happen now? Yes or no.
You are both right:
http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1237979/
and shortly after:
http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1238201/
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(Msg. 85) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:41 am
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On Apr 7 2008 10:05 AM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
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> Actually that's a case of selective memory you're demonstrating. Do
> you not remember threatening to beat the living shit out of me? Yes or
> no. Is that going to happen now? Yes or no.
Yes, I do remember. And I backed off and offered to buy you a few beers
since then. Are you stupid or just obnoxious? Not that there's anything
wrong with either, just curious.
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Since: May 09, 2007 Posts: 338
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(Msg. 86) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:58 am
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On Apr 7, 8:41 am, "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew....DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 7 2008 10:05 AM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
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> > Actually that's a case of selective memory you're demonstrating. Do
> > you not remember threatening to beat the living shit out of me? Yes or
> > no. Is that going to happen now? Yes or no.
>
> Yes, I do remember.
Excellent. Though I'm sorry about the selective memory diagnosis.
> And I backed off and offered to buy you a few beers
> since then.
Which doesn't change the fact you managed to act like a complete ass.
> Are you stupid or just obnoxious?
Obnoxious.
> Not that there's anything wrong with either, just curious.
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(Msg. 87) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:09 am
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On Apr 5 2008 3:44 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
> On Apr 5 2008 3:51 PM, Abbey Johnsson wrote:
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> > On Apr 5 2008 11:48 AM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I don't expect to be sober at Barge.
> >
> > From what i've read, you're rarely sober even away from Barge.
>
> Do you have a point?
It sounds like he's saying that, based on what he's read, you're a drunk.
But maybe I'm reading too much into it.
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(Msg. 88) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:16 am
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On Apr 5 2008 6:42 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
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> On Apr 5 2008 6:48 PM, igotskillz com wrote:
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> > Ok, let's do the math....
> >
> > you play at least 30 hands an hour
> > you win 1/10
> > thats 3 bucks an hour
> > 40 hours a week
> > 120 a week ! thats if you only play ten handed games that are slow and you
> > only play 40 hours a week
> >
> > 6 grand a year to a dealer ?
> > thats 60k a year for each dealer that has 1 buck a pot from each player.
> >
> > Naturally dealers will whine because you want more tips.
> >
> > I will tip less now.
> >
> > Thanks for prompting me to do the math.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you want to make some cash, deal with someone you know, ME !!!
> >
> > www.MySavingSpot.com
>
> What kind of new car are we buying for 6k? Reread what Russ said, numbnuts.
Well, let's see...that works out to a $500/month payment. For that you
could buy a brand-new $25K vehicle every 5 years. Not exactly hob-nobbing
with The Donald, but most Americans would like to be able to do that.
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(Msg. 89) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:52 am
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On Apr 7, 8:33 am, "FellKnight" <jordandevenp....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7 2008 8:05 AM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
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> > On Apr 7, 3:17 am, "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > You have a bad case of selective memory. If you'll recall, I offered to
> > > buy you a few beers in your thread with the BARGE questions.
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> > Actually that's a case of selective memory you're demonstrating. Do
> > you not remember threatening to beat the living shit out of me? Yes or
> > no. Is that going to happen now? Yes or no.
>
> You are both right:
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> http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1237979/
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> and shortly after:
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> http://www.recgroups.com/a/1/1238201/
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> Fell
I'm well aware of what he said, and what I said. Now show me where he
negated the statement that he was going to beat me up.
I know where you're coming from Fell, I'm not that dense. He just
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(Msg. 90) Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:13 am
Post subject: Re: I Am Too Cheap To Tip Dealers [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Apr 7 2008 12:16 PM, WuzYoungOnceToo wrote:
> On Apr 5 2008 6:42 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 5 2008 6:48 PM, igotskillz com wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, let's do the math....
> > >
> > > you play at least 30 hands an hour
> > > you win 1/10
> > > thats 3 bucks an hour
> > > 40 hours a week
> > > 120 a week ! thats if you only play ten handed games that are slow and
you
> > > only play 40 hours a week
> > >
> > > 6 grand a year to a dealer ?
> > > thats 60k a year for each dealer that has 1 buck a pot from each player.
> > >
> > > Naturally dealers will whine because you want more tips.
> > >
> > > I will tip less now.
> > >
> > > Thanks for prompting me to do the math.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you want to make some cash, deal with someone you know, ME !!!
> > >
> > > www.MySavingSpot.com
> >
> > What kind of new car are we buying for 6k? Reread what Russ said, numbnuts.
>
> Well, let's see...that works out to a $500/month payment. For that you
> could buy a brand-new $25K vehicle every 5 years. Not exactly hob-nobbing
> with The Donald, but most Americans would like to be able to do that.
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> "Be polite. Be professional. But...have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
So, now we're making payments? Hahaha.
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