I need help with a home game situation

On Oct 26 2007 6:03 PM, RedKnave wrote:

> I played in a small LLHE home game with 5 players last night. This
> situation arose at the end of one particular hand. One thing to keep in
> mind is that none of us are greatly skilled in running a game, and 3 of
> the 5 are pretty raw beginners.
>
> I'm not entirely sure of all of the action up until the turn, but on the
> turn there were three players, the dealer/button, and the two players to
> the dealer's right. I guess you could say players 3, 4, and 5. 5 bets, 3
> and 4 call.
>
> There's been lots of talk about misc. stuff during the hand and a fair
> amount of distraction. Player 3 is one of the raw beginners and tends to
> hold his hole cards in his hands, in spite of a number of discussions
> about not doing that. This is one of those times when he's holding his
> cards, and it's in a way that with a quick glance you wouldn't see that
> he still had cards.
>
> Player 5 (dealer) bets. Player 4 calls and throws in his chips. Dealer
> lays down his hand and asks player 4 what he has. Player 4 concedes the
> hand and the dealer starts to rake in the chips.
>
> At this point, player 3 says he has a straight, which would have won the
> hand. We asked him if he had put any chips in the pot to call the bet on
> the river. He said he didn't. He made a vague comment about our not
> having given him time to act, but overall wasn't pushing the issue.
>
> The big problem was that nobody could see that he was still in the hand.
> However, nobody was paying all that much attention, either.
>
> Pretty much as a group, we decided he was screwed because he didn't call
> the river bet. But an argument could be made that player 4 acted out of
> turn and didn't give 3 a chance. But this is countered somewhat by the
> fact that 3 was "concealing" his cards and nobody was aware he still was
> in the hand.
>
> What's the proper response to a situation like this?

Carson will give you the best advice.  Pickle will totally twist the situation
into some kind of esoteric exercise.He should be avoided like the plague!!!!

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